Table of Accusations
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A Response to the Video:
Seventh-day Adventism, the Spirit Behind the Church
by Bob Pickle
Answers to Questions Raised by:
Mark Martin, Sydney Cleveland
Dale Ratzlaff, The White Lie
. . . and Others
Discern Fact from Fiction
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Table of Accusations Covered
Whether Fact or Fiction, Implied or Stated
- All quotes of Mrs. White in the video are from official
- Adventism is based around her teachings and
- She was the founder of the Adventist
The Millerite Movement
- William Miller was a powerful preacher.
- He taught that Christ would return in
- He taught that Christ would return on October 22,
- That date was not the Day of Atonement in
- Miller's meetings were marked by emotionalism and
- This picture depicts the radical fanaticism of his
- When Christ did not return, Mrs. White said she was
in a "hopeless condition for months."
- She was depressed when Christ did not
- She could not admit her mistake of expecting Christ to
- Miller did admit his mistake.
- Mrs. White's first vision said that the 1843 chart
should not be altered.
- She claimed God hid the mistake.
- She claimed God made the mistake.
- Her first vision was controversial.
- It forced the readjustment of many Adventist dates and
- It adjusted the 1843 date to 1844.
- The 1844 date was still an error.
The Role of Mrs. White and Her Writings
- Mrs. White became the absolute authority
- Her writings grew to be seventeen times larger than
- Adventists view her writings as inspired as the
- Church publications use her writings as the last word
- Adventism's twenty-seven fundamental beliefs say that
the Bible is a source of authority.
- They also say Mrs. White's writings are an
authoritative source of truth.
- Some of her writings are unavailable, locked in a
- These writings are her more embarrassing
- She claimed an angel came and talked to
Her Predictions and Views
- History shows that her prophecies did not come
- She said Jerusalem would never be built up and
- She said she would be alive when Jesus
- She said the second coming was only months
- She said that some present at an 1856 conference
would be alive when Jesus came.
- She would have been stoned in Bible times for being a
- She predicted the downfall of the United States during
the Civil War.
- She predicted England would declare war on the
United States. [p. ix]
- These prophecies
were utterly erroneous.
- She predicted world war during the Civil
- She predicted the humbling of the United States in
- She claimed to travel to other planets in
- She said animals and people crossed
- She believed that this produced the black
- Her visions are unbiblical.
- Adventists say her writings are as inspired as the
The Investigative Judgment and Shut Door, and Their Ramifications
- The investigative judgment doctrine was a
- Miller's prediction of October 22, 1844,
- Adventists believed that the door of mercy was shut on
- They've got to be wrong if they believed
- With prophetic authority Mrs. White supported the
- Her first vision taught this doctrine.
- When reprinted, that part was left out, though the
preface said there were no changes.
- The other shut-door-of-mercy passages were dropped
- Or else they were reinterpreted.
- Adventists never admitted their error regarding
expecting Jesus to come in 1844.
- Mrs. White immediately put God's endorsement on
Edson and Crosier's explanation of why Christ had not come.
- Certain doctrines were soon adjusted to fit their
cleansing of the sanctuary and investigative judgment doctrines.
- The shut door was then opened.
- Soul sleep was introduced because of the investigative
- The prophecies of Daniel and Revelation were
reinterpreted to fit the investigative judgment.
- It was a time of doctrinal reversal.
- The idea that an angel is recording everything we do,
and that we will be judged by such a record, is harsh.
- Mrs. White taught that we would be judged for trying
to have some leisure time.
- The investigative judgment doctrine is unique to
- It can't be supported by the Scriptures.
- It states that a believer's works determines their
- It is blatantly unbiblical.
- Seventh-day Adventism is not a legitimate Christian
- The investigative judgment doctrine teaches that
believers will be lost if they have unconfessed sins.
- Even forgotten sins.
- It requires perfect obedience to the Ten
- Especially the Fourth Commandment.
- It is diametrically opposed to the gospel of
Bible Versions and Footnotes
- Seventh-day Adventism is a man-made
- Adventists have their own version of the
- It's called The Clear Word
- In it, the words and ideas of Mrs. White are inserted
into the biblical text.
- It adds 300 words to Daniel 9.
- Daniel 8:14 is a blatant example of such alteration of
the biblical text.
- It's called The Clear Word
- It was written to support their
- It manipulates and distorts Scripture.
- And then we have their Study
- It was published by the Seventh-day
- It contains quotes from Mrs. White.
Other Doctrines; the Jehovah's Witnesses
- Adventists teach that Christ's atonement on the cross
- They teach the heresy that Michael is
- They teach that there is no hell.
- They teach doctrines contrary to
- Many of their doctrines are similar to Jehovah's
- N. H. Barbour was an early Adventist.
- Both Jehovah's Witnesses and Seventh-day Adventists
teach the heresy of soul sleep.
- Both teach the heresy that Michael is Christ.
- Early Adventists like Uriah Smith and James White
denied the deity of Christ, just like Jehovah's Witnesses. [p. x]
- Both Jehovah's
Witnesses and Adventists have produced altered versions of the Bible.
- Both have set dates for Christ's return.
- Both claim to be the only remnant
Jehovah's Witnesses, Cont.; Plagiarism
- Both plagiarized.
- Both really were guilty of this crime.
- Walter Rea's The White Lie was
dedicated to those who would rather believe a bitter truth than a sweet lie.
- Mrs. White's inspiration was borrowed from others
- Her major books contain "stolen"
- Sketches from the Life of Paul was
plagiarized in its entirety.
- This resulted in a lawsuit.
- The book was then quickly taken out of
- The evidence is irrefutable that she "stole" her
inspiration from others.
- The main line of defense in The White Truth
was regarding copyright laws back then.
- It says that there were no copyright laws back then,
so Mrs. White didn't break the law.
- This sidestepped the issue.
- The Adventist hierarchy has never responded to Rea's
- "Prove that 20% of Mrs. White's writings are
- Her visions which she claimed came from God were
Health Counsel, Wigs, and the Reform Dress
- The Seventh-day Adventist ministry is not a Christian
- Mrs. White's early health documents produce a rude
awakening because of their fixation on moral purity.
- Most of her health advice dealt with suppressing the
male sexual urge.
- She thought this urge was excessive.
- [Not in all editions of the video.] She felt she had
been given special light on the subject of masturbation.
- [Not in all editions of the video.] Here is a list she
gave of diseases caused by this practice.
- [Not in all editions of the video.] She said kids who
do this get green skin.
- She said that meat inflames the
- She said rich and highly seasoned foods act as
- She said, "Sip no more the beverage of China, no
more the drinks of Java."
- She advised skipping all suppers in order to bring the
male sexual appetites under control.
- [Not in all editions of the video.] She said not to
sleep on feather beds.
- [Not in all editions of the video.] She hypocritically
used a feather bed.
- [Not in all editions of the video.] The Battle Creek
Sanitarium used hydrotherapy to treat "secret vice."
- [Not in all editions of the video.] This picture shows
how that treatment was done.
- Mrs. White controlled her female followers through
directives on dress.
- She was against wearing any kind of
- This picture of a skeleton looking through a window
illustrates the kind of wig she didn't like.
- After she dealt with wigs, she introduced the reform
- She tried to force it on people.
- This dress was hot.
- It was uncomfortable.
- It was bulky.
- It was long.
- Faithful sisters struggled with it.
- It was cumbersome.
- Mrs. White gave no explanation for why she quit
- She said those who aren't vegetarians when Jesus
comes can't go to heaven.
Salvation, Grace, and Obedience
- She taught that you have to keep the law to put
yourself on the road to salvation.
- She wrote this quote which denounces the doctrine of
justification by faith.
- She had no patience with those who believe in Jesus
and say, "I am saved."
- Adventists believe that Jesus made the down payment
for our salvation.
- But they believe that we must make the monthly
- They do not rely upon the grace of God
alone. [p. xi]
- They are striving to
be rigidly obedient.
- They are inflexible, guilt-ridden
- Mrs. White said, "No one is saved who is a
- We don't have to worry about obeying the law, since
we are under the New Covenant now, not the Old Covenant.
- And Christ is the end of the law.
- We are not under the tutorship of the
- Christians will keep God's commandments out of
- Being under the law leads to sin.
- Being under grace leads to holiness.
Salvation, Cont.; Conditional Immortality
- A pre-advent judgment of works is incompatible with
the gospel of grace.
- Soul sleep was introduced because of the investigative
- The doctrine of soul sleep is
- Conditional immortality flies in the face of two
- Adventists do not teach the biblical doctrine of
The Fourth Commandment
- The Adventist view that Sabbath keeping is a mark of
true loyalty to God is wrong.
- After hearing about the Sabbath, Mrs. White obliged
by conveniently having a vision.
- This vision introduced the Sabbath to her
- Adventists weren't following what the Bible says
about beginning the Sabbath at sunset.
- Mrs. White decided to have another
- This vision was intended to settle the matter with the
- A delegate reported that "After the conference,
. . . the vision was given, establishing those undecided on the sunset
- But Adventists continued to ask
- Why did Mrs. White have visions saying that the
Sabbath should be kept from 6 pm to 6 pm?
- It required another vision to stop the
- In this vision she promised to question the
- The angel said, "Not yet, not yet."
- She died without ever giving the promised
- The promised explanation was never
The Seal of God and the Mark of the Beast
- After the change of time for keeping the Sabbath, the
Sabbath came to be understood as the seal.
- It was seen to be of prime importance in determining
who would and who wouldn't be saved.
- The Great Controversy supports the
idea that people already have the mark of the beast by keeping Sunday.
- Adventists believe that failing to keep the Sabbath
resulted in receiving the mark of the beast and losing eternal
- Their view today on the subject is
- They teach that Sunday keeping is a mark of
- Even today, they make salvation ultimately dependent
on which particular day . . .
- . . . one worships.
- The New Testament says that the seal of God is the
work of the Holy Spirit, not the keeping of the Sabbath.
- Mrs. White has no support at all for identifying the
Sabbath as the seal of God.
Sunday vs. the Lord's Day, and the Scapegoat
- The day Christ rose from the dead is the Lord's
- His early followers met regularly on the resurrection
day for worship.
- They did not meet regularly on the
- The resurrection day was when the disciples usually
- They did not break bread on the
- The Sabbath is Jewish.
- Adventists teach that Satan becomes the
- Thus, they differ from the teaching of Scripture that
Christ bore our sins on the cross.
Wrapping Up the Case
- Adventists strive to be included as mainline,
evangelical, Protestant Christians.
- An Adventist pastor supplied the following five marks
of a cult. [p. xii]
- There is a "total
reliance" by Seventh-day Adventists on Mrs. White.
- She is revered by all Seventh-day
- Her comments overshadow the teachings of the
- Adventists view her comments on the Scriptures to be
more authoritative than tradition.
- She pressured people into submission.
- She publicly aired reproofs sent to
- Usually the person conformed
. . .
- . . . under the pressure.
- The type of pressure she used is one of the marks of
- Acceptance and fellowship are very often withheld
today from those who question the church's teachings.
- Such treatment is a characteristic of a
- Adventists originally denied the deity of
- They must discontinue the doctrine that "Michael" is
a name for Christ.
- This teaching contradicts Hebrews
- But they can't discontinue this doctrine without
admitting that Mrs. White made a mistake.
- It is impossible to accommodate both doctrines, that
Christ is divine, and that Michael is Christ.
- Adventists have added the investigative judgment to
salvation by grace through faith.
- They've also added Sabbath keeping.
- They've added obedience to the Ten Commandments
as requirements for salvation.
- They've added obedience to other Old Testament
laws as well.
- They believe that the world's sins have been placed
upon Satan . . .
- . . . rather than upon
- They believe that Christians must stand before God
without Christ as their mediator.
- This contradicts Hebrews 7:25.
- Adventists believe that salvation comes by placing sin
- This view of salvation is not the salvation taught in
- Four of the five marks of a cult apply to Seventh-day
- These five marks of a cult are very
- Adventist leaders deceptively espoused the view of
salvation by grace alone in the 1950's.
- Many followers felt betrayed by this.
- They began searching for themselves, and made lurid
Testimonials, Documentation, and the Video Jacket
- "The Adventist Church had deceived
- "I was never presented with [Mrs. White's copying]
in the school system."
- ". . . when I saw that
. . . . I felt like I had . . . been lied to."
- ". . . the [Adventist] church was
inconsistent theologically and politically."
- This is a good reason for not being a
- "When expedient, they . . . contradicted
Ellen G. White . . . ."
- "The last three years have been the most spiritually
rewarding of my thirty-one years as a Christian."
- "I am part of the family of God that truly upholds the
Bible as the sole authority of both faith and practice."
- "Jesus saves us not by our deeds
. . . ."
- "Because you're not going to be able to get this
information from your church."
- The documentation package
substantiates the information contained in the video.
- A number of former high-ranking Adventist Church
leaders are featured on the video.
- The video contains answers based on the best
- It contains answers based on a firm adherence to the
truths of God's Word.
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