A Response to the Video:
Seventh-day Adventism, the Spirit Behind the Church
by Bob Pickle
Answers to Questions Raised by:
Mark Martin, Sydney Cleveland
Dale Ratzlaff, The White Lie
. . . and Others
Discern Fact from Fiction
Wrapping Up the Case
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#213, & #214: "As to
salvation by grace through faith in Christ alone, Adventists have added
the investigative judgment, the keeping of the Sabbath, and obedience to the Ten
Commandments and other
Old Testament laws as requirements for salvation."—Narrator.|
#211: Adventists have added the
investigative judgment to salvation by grace through faith in Christ alone.
Then why did Paul say, "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ
according to my gospel" (Rom. 2:16)? If God will
judge all by the gospel, it cannot be true that the judgment is added to the
gospel. And as Revelation 14:6, 7 clearly shows, even a pre-advent
judgment is part of the gospel.
In actuality, someone who denies the truth of these Scriptures is
deleting the judgment from the gospel. Who authorized the contributors
to this video to delete the judgment from salvation by grace through faith in
Christ alone? The penalty for deleting anything is severe:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God
shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the
holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. (Rev. 22:19)
#212: Adventists have added Sabbath keeping to salvation
by grace through faith in Christ alone. Who gets quoted so
much on these issues? Why it's the apostle Paul. And what did he teach?
The Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the
Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded
them to continue in the grace of God. (Acts 13:42,
So Sabbath keeping is not at odds with salvation by grace. Besides, Paul made it pretty
clear that he was not a Sabbath breaker:
Neither against the law of the Jews, neither against the temple, nor yet against Caesar,
have I offended any thing at all. (Acts 25:8)
Men and brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or customs of
our fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem
into the hands of the Romans. (Acts 28:17)
The worst rumor that the Judaizers could bring against Paul was that he had told Jews
not to circumcise their children (Acts 21:21), a charge
that was totally baseless. If he really had been teaching that the weekly Sabbath was
incompatible with the gospel, then the Judaizers would have
had some facts to relate rather than just baseless rumors. The absence of a record of a
controversy over the Sabbath in the book of Acts tells us
plainly that Paul always sought to keep holy the Lord's Day Sabbath.
Now if these considerations aren't enough, we also have that first angel of Revelation
14 quoting from the fourth commandment while
preaching the everlasting gospel: "And worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the
sea, and the fountains of waters" (Rev. 14:7).
Sabbath keeping is also a component of the New Covenant, for the New Covenant
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith
the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write
them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people. (Heb.
Speaking of covenants: "Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a
man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man
disannulleth, or addeth thereto" (Gal. 3:15). When was the New Covenant ratified?
And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for
the redemption of the transgressions that were under the
first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For
where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the
death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no
strength at all while the testator liveth. (Heb. 9:15-17) [p. 139]
Since the Greek word for "testament" (a will) is the
same as the word for "covenant," it is quite apparent from this passage that the New
Covenant could not be altered after Christ died. Therefore, the New Testament, the New
Covenant, was ratified on Friday, the day of Christ's
That evening, what did Christ's followers do? "And they returned, and prepared spices
and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according
to the commandment" (Luke 23:56).
Christ's will states that the law is to be written in the hearts and minds of believers. If
the Sabbath were to be deleted from that law, it would
have to be deleted before Christ died. Since it was not, the fourth commandment must still
be in force. Resurrection Sunday came three days
Would the contributors to this video please consider that they are at risk of being
charged with the crime of deleting from and altering a Man's
will after His death? Such activities are highly illegal. Contact the heavenly court for full
#213: Adventists have added obedience to the Ten Commandments as
requirements for salvation. If by "salvation" the
narrator means justification or conversion, then it need only be pointed out that Adventists
believe that obedience is impossible before salvation
occurs. If the narrator means "glorification," then it is a simple fact that Adventists haven't
The gospel of Luke says:
And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal
life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good?
none is good, save one, that is, God. Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit
adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness,
Honour thy father and thy mother. (Luke 18:18-20)
Jesus wasn't saying that we can work our way to heaven, but He was pointing out that
sin must be put away.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no
wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever
therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be
called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever
shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Mat.
It is only through salvation by grace through faith in Christ alone that our lives can be
brought back into harmony with God's holy law. But
the point of these verses is that our lives must be brought back.
Paul cannot be clearer:
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a
new creature. (Gal. 6:15)
For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but
faith which worketh by love. (Gal. 5:6)
Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the
commandments of God. (1 Cor. 7:19)
If we want to be in God's kingdom at last, we must become a new creature, we must
have that faith that works by love, we must keep God's
The idea that people can continue to break the commandments of God and still go to
heaven must be another gospel. It certainly wasn't
the gospel Paul taught in the book of Galatians (Gal. 5:19-21). That book also says:
I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ
unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be
some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. (Gal. 1:6, 7)
Why did the contributors to the video delete commandment keeping
from the gospel, thus producing a different gospel than the one that
Jesus and Paul preached? Did they have a vision or dream, or did an angel come to tell them
to do so? "But though we, or an angel from heaven,
preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be
accursed" (Gal. 1:8).
#214: Adventists have added obedience to other Old Testament laws as
requirements for salvation. Again, this is untrue.
Adventists haven't added anything.
What Old Testament laws is the narrator talking about? Is he talking about abstaining
from eating blood? Yet Acts 15 tells Christians that
they must still abide by this Old Testament regulation:
For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden
than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats
offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from
which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
(Acts 15:28, 29)
Or is the narrator talking about abstaining from eating unclean animals? Yet Isaiah said
that those living in the end of time just before Christ
returns must abstain from eating such:
For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to
render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of
fire. For by [p. 140] fire and by his sword will the LORD plead
with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. They that sanctify themselves, and
purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the
abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together,
saith the LORD. (Is. 66:15-17)
And the apostle Paul indicates that we should abstain from them as well:
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch
not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be
a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. (2 Cor.
That's what we all want, isn't it? Don't you want God to be your Father? And let's not
forget that, years after the cross, Peter testified: "I
have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean" (Acts 10:14).
Or is the narrator talking about tithing? In the context of events that occur in New
Testament times, Malachi says:
Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed
thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for
ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that
there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now
herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour
you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough
to receive it. And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the
fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit
before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts. (Mal. 3:8-11)
Many Bible-believing Christians of many denominations have been greatly blessed by
simply taking God at His word. They have claimed
this promise and have had their crops, their homes, and their lives preserved.
This writer is one of these. His house in Dobbins, California, was in the midst of a
5800-acre forest fire in 1997. The hard-plastic weather
stripping around two of his windows melted from the intense heat of the fire as it raced to
the top of the ridge where his house stood. A forty-foot
or taller pine tree twenty feet from the house was torched all the way up. A cedar with
foliage four feet from the roof was badly burned on its
side away from the house. Though there was no defensible space between the house and the
trees on the downhill side, the house stood totally
untouched, other than the weather stripping. Eighty-three other houses did not fair so well.
One nearby went down in ten minutes.
Paul indicates that as the preachers of the Old Testament were supported, even so were
the preachers of the New Testament to be supported:
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the
temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with
the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of
the gospel. (1 Cor. 9:13, 14)
Another hint regarding the perpetuity of the three things mentioned above (abstaining
from blood and unclean animals, and tithing), is that
they are all precepts that existed before the Jews came to
- Noah and all his descendants were forbidden to eat blood (Gen.
- Noah knew all about the clean-unclean animal distinctions (Gen.
- Abraham paid tithes, and Jacob promised to (Gen. 14:20; 28:22).
A careful study of Acts 15 reveals some vital points. First, the issue that prompted the
church council of Acts 15 was whether the Gentiles
had to be circumcised before they could be saved (vss. 1, 5). Such a position in effect was
saying that Gentiles had to become Jews, and thus
that only Jews could be saved. Nowhere in the Old Testament are Gentiles ever told to be
circumcised if they want to be saved. These Judaizers
were thus trying to add to the Word of God.
Second, the council decided to ask the Gentiles to obey laws that had been binding
upon them in Old Testament times (vss. 20, 29; cf. Lev.
17:13; 18:24, 25). So while they didn't have to obey laws that applied only to Jews in Old
Testament times, they were still expected to heed the
laws that had always applied to everyone.
Now since the Sabbath dates back to Adam, since both abstaining from blood and the
clean-unclean animal distinctions date back at least
to Noah, and since tithing dates back at least to Abraham, these must be precepts that applied
to Gentiles back then. That being so, Acts 15
indicates that they still apply today.
Much more could be said on the subject, but suffice it to say that Adventists haven't
added anything here either.
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