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A Response to the Video:
Seventh-day Adventism, the Spirit Behind the Church

by Bob Pickle

Answers to Questions Raised by:
Mark Martin, Sydney Cleveland
Dale Ratzlaff, The White Lie
. . . and
Others

Discern Fact from Fiction


Her Predictions and Views

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#40: "The United States of America was not humbled into the dust in defeat. Mrs. White again clearly to the objective mind prophesied falsely."—Sydney Cleveland. [p. 38]

#40: She said the US would be humbled into the dust in defeat. She never said "in defeat." The facts are these:

  1. Our nation had been proud.
  2. Other nations were disgusted at how we were conducting the Civil War.
  3. We were humbled into the dust.

Consider the following from her pen:

This war is a most singular and at the same time a most horrible and heartsickening conflict. Other nations are looking on with disgust at the transactions of the armies of both North and South. They see such a determined effort to protract the war at an enormous sacrifice of life and money, while at the same time nothing is really gained, that it looks to them like a strife to see which can kill the most men. They are indignant.—Testimonies for the Church, vol. 1, p. 367.

On January 20, 1863, the London Times reported the words of an American preacher who in prayer had "blessed the name of God for having so humbled the nation that it was compelled as a military necessity to ask the aid of the negro." On July 4th of the same year, the Times described that year's American Independence Day as "this day of festivity, now converted into a day of humiliation" (F. D. Nichol, Ellen G. White and Her Critics, p. 120).

Mr. Cleveland would have had a hard time convincing these "objective minds" that Mrs. White prophesied falsely.

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